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Grigol Vashadze, in response to Tea Tsulukiani’s question about whether what Saakashvili was doing was madness and recklessness, said: I cannot agree with you - Madness and recklessness are not characterized by emotionality. It is absolutely impossible that someone from the West told him to engage in a military adventure

Grigol Vashadze, in response to Tea Tsulukiani’s question about whether what Saakashvili was doing was madness and recklessness, said:  I cannot agree with you - Madness and recklessness are not characterized by emotionality. It is absolutely impossible that someone from the West told him to engage in a military adventure
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"It is absolutely impossible that someone from the West told us to engage in some kind of military adventure," said former Foreign Minister Grigol Vashadze in response to a question from the chair of the temporary parliamentary investigative commission on the activities of the United National Movement government, Tea Tsulukiani.

The question concerned the "imperialist rhetoric" of Georgia’s third president, Mikheil Saakashvili.

When formulating her question, Tsulukiani stated that the issue at hand was whether "what Saakashvili had been doing for years was madness, and whether the Georgian army became the victim of it."

"I am not talking about you specifically, I am talking about the government, which, since 2004, has deliberately dismantled peace initiatives, engaged in militaristic rhetoric, knew Russia and what consequences this could have, and refused to reconcile with fellow citizens who remained beyond the dividing line. In your opinion, and forgive me for saying this, was this madness? Was it the recklessness of an unbalanced person who surrounded himself, especially between 2004 and 2007, with a small group of people and made decisions at night with just two or three others? Is this what happened? Was it madness, or was it an externally dictated plan—whether from the East, West, North, or South—to deliberately dismantle the country and hand over territories to Russia?

When you say that you did not spare any effort for peace initiatives, if you wish, I can take just two minutes of your time to play a statement from Saakashvili. One of many such statements, but a particularly important one. If you do not want to listen, I will tell you: this was from 2006-2007, maybe early 2008. He was wearing military attire and said, ‘Everyone should dress like me and fight. Our children are here to fight.’ Of course, every Georgian raises their children to defend the homeland, but that is not the point. The point is whether what this person did over all those years was madness, which resulted in the Georgian army being sacrificed, the population being trapped and shot at, and not even evacuated. And, of course, our territories, which we lost even more of than were occupied before. Or was this an order given to him and his team from some external source, which they executed perfectly, just like their numbers suggest?" Tsulukiani said.

In response, Grigol Vashadze stated that he did not know what motivated the president’s interviews or statements.

"From 2004 to 2008, without the level and amount of information I had from February 2008 to 2012, I cannot give a qualified answer. But I can rule out one thing—I do not know what motivated the president's interviews or statements, but I understand your question, and it is absolutely impossible that someone from the West told us to engage in a military adventure.

To assess these statements, I would personally need access to the same level and quantity of information I had as a deputy and minister. I cannot agree with your terminology, Madam Tea—madness and recklessness are not characterized by emotionality. Perhaps sometimes, but everything he did was well thought out.

One thing I can tell you, as a diplomat, a citizen of Georgia, and a person who had access to a vast amount of high-quality information—Russia’s proxy war, and later direct war, against Georgia has never ceased since the 1990s. This was driven by Russia's imperialist interests. Never, just as today, has the Russian Federation sought an equal, international law-based relationship with sovereign Georgia," Vashadze said in response.

Grigol Vashadze, in response to Tea Tsulukiani’s question about whether what Saakashvili was doing was madness and recklessness, said:  I cannot agree with you - Madness and recklessness are not characterized by emotionality. It is absolutely impossible that someone from the West told him to engage in a military adventure

"It is absolutely impossible that someone from the West told us to engage in some kind of military adventure," said former Foreign Minister Grigol Vashadze in response to a question from the chair of the temporary parliamentary investigative commission on the activities of the United National Movement government, Tea Tsulukiani.

The question concerned the "imperialist rhetoric" of Georgia’s third president, Mikheil Saakashvili.

When formulating her question, Tsulukiani stated that the issue at hand was whether "what Saakashvili had been doing for years was madness, and whether the Georgian army became the victim of it."

"I am not talking about you specifically, I am talking about the government, which, since 2004, has deliberately dismantled peace initiatives, engaged in militaristic rhetoric, knew Russia and what consequences this could have, and refused to reconcile with fellow citizens who remained beyond the dividing line. In your opinion, and forgive me for saying this, was this madness? Was it the recklessness of an unbalanced person who surrounded himself, especially between 2004 and 2007, with a small group of people and made decisions at night with just two or three others? Is this what happened? Was it madness, or was it an externally dictated plan—whether from the East, West, North, or South—to deliberately dismantle the country and hand over territories to Russia?

When you say that you did not spare any effort for peace initiatives, if you wish, I can take just two minutes of your time to play a statement from Saakashvili. One of many such statements, but a particularly important one. If you do not want to listen, I will tell you: this was from 2006-2007, maybe early 2008. He was wearing military attire and said, ‘Everyone should dress like me and fight. Our children are here to fight.’ Of course, every Georgian raises their children to defend the homeland, but that is not the point. The point is whether what this person did over all those years was madness, which resulted in the Georgian army being sacrificed, the population being trapped and shot at, and not even evacuated. And, of course, our territories, which we lost even more of than were occupied before. Or was this an order given to him and his team from some external source, which they executed perfectly, just like their numbers suggest?" Tsulukiani said.

In response, Grigol Vashadze stated that he did not know what motivated the president’s interviews or statements.

"From 2004 to 2008, without the level and amount of information I had from February 2008 to 2012, I cannot give a qualified answer. But I can rule out one thing—I do not know what motivated the president's interviews or statements, but I understand your question, and it is absolutely impossible that someone from the West told us to engage in a military adventure.

To assess these statements, I would personally need access to the same level and quantity of information I had as a deputy and minister. I cannot agree with your terminology, Madam Tea—madness and recklessness are not characterized by emotionality. Perhaps sometimes, but everything he did was well thought out.

One thing I can tell you, as a diplomat, a citizen of Georgia, and a person who had access to a vast amount of high-quality information—Russia’s proxy war, and later direct war, against Georgia has never ceased since the 1990s. This was driven by Russia's imperialist interests. Never, just as today, has the Russian Federation sought an equal, international law-based relationship with sovereign Georgia," Vashadze said in response.

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